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It's Free, so it must be a good thing...

10/2/2013

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By: Shelley Broadway     From: Shelley's Thoughts on...

Last night, at the dinner table, I presented the boys with a scenario. What if the government wrote a law that made all forms of entertainment free for everyone? No one would have to pay for movies, to go bowling, skating, watch a ballgame, etc.

Earlier in the day I’d been reading comments on the Right Wing Obamacare Myths Debunked post by Matt Walsh. There was a lady, who wasn’t even an American, saying she didn’t understand why so many were against Obamacare when it would help so many.  All I could think was “My ten-year old would understand why this isn’t a good idea.”

As a family, we don’t always have the money to go to the movies, our local fun center, ball games, etc. We go to about 2 movies a year. Sometimes not even that much. Not always because we don’t have the money, but often times there’s not anything we really want to see. I figure, for just the boy’s admission and snacks, it’s about $15 a pop.

Before dinner, I sat down and wrote up the “Entertainment Act”. Before I read it to them and went over it, I told them to assume they’d pay about $15 to see a movie and the money they get for their allowance would be their annual income. Once they understood the ‘scenario’, we went over each section discussing it and answering their questions if they had any.

Entertainment Act

Article I. Allows everyone to participate in all local entertainment for free. Movies, roller skating, bowling, etc.


Needless to say, they were all for it. Free fun stuff? Sign me up!

Article II. Those working in the entertainment industry (actors, ball players, etc) as well as the owners of the theaters, stadiums, etc and their employees must still get paid. In order to cover the costs of the entertainment and to pay those working in it, there will be a slight rise in the amount of tax paid on purchases, a few new minor taxes, and less tax breaks at the end of the year.


 Here’s where they began to have some questions. At first they were like “Okay, I guess.”, but wondered how it would work. We explained it would be a minor raise in taxes on things, which didn’t seems like a lot. Then they realized that the little – when put all together – adds up to a lot. This was when Brinson started thinking it wasn’t such a good idea. Harrison said “Well, it might still be good. I’m not sure yet…”

Article III. Those who don’t attend entertainment events, by choice, may choose to “opt out” of the program. However, in order to fund the program, those opting out will have to pay a monthly penalty fee. This fee will be in addition to the higher taxes to the less tax breaks, etc. People who never participated in any entertainment activities, and don’t plan to in the future, must still participate or pay the penalty. If a person has a bowling alley or some other form of entertainment in their home for personal use, that is fine, but they must still participate in the program or pay the penalty.


They began to have a few more doubts and questions. Their Gran doesn’t do any of those things, so we talked about how that would impact her. Then we talked about how it would impact them. As it was now, they paid $15 when they wanted to see a movie. Harrison began to get his quizzical eyebrow raise face going. “Wait a second” he says “So, if I *don’t* want to go to the movies, I have to pay?”

*Nod*

Brinson – “That doesn’t seem right… or fair.”

Harrison – “So, if I don’t want to do it… I have to pay and still pay more taxes and all that other stuff?”

I just gave a *nod* again. I was trying very hard not to sway their thinking with tone or expression or anything and I made sure they understood that there wasn’t a right or wrong answer…

Tom asked the boys “How much do you pay now to see a movie when you’d like?” They answered $15 (per the parameters at the beginning of the scenario) “So, about $30 a year. How much do you pay to not see movie and stay home?”

Brinson – “Nothing.”

Their expressions began to change from interest to ‘Hey, wait a second…’

Harrison – “This makes no sense…”

Me – “I’m not done. There’s more… Ready to move on?”

Harrison – “Yeah. I guess…”

I began to get the feeling this was no longer a ‘fantastic idea’ in their minds.

Article IV. City officials and city government employees (mayor, secretary, etc) do not have to participate in the program and won’t be required to pay the penalty.

Brinson – “See.”

Me – “What?”

Brinson – “I said it didn’t seem fair. That’s not fair. Why do I have to pay the money, but they don’t?”

Me – “Yeah, why would it be that way? Why would they put that in there?”

Harrison – “Because they don’t want to spend their money or taxes on it…”

Brinson – “Because it’s a dumb idea and they know it.”

We went on to show how the different people’s incomes and how what they pay in is comparable to what they make for a living. Kept it basic, I reminded them of how much they make in allowance each year. Then grabbed the taxes off of that amount. They noted that the people making the most money, paid the most money. Harrison mentioned finding a job that was easier work and less pay if the benefit was the same. *This* is another problem with such a program. Someone explained in this video that explains socialism to children.

The conversation eventually went on to how much the taxes would be raised or how much the penalty would be and things like that. That was when I said “Well, I’ll tell you how much your taxes will be raised and how much the penalty is after you agree to it and make it a law.”

Harrison – “WHAT!?”

Me – “Tell me if you want to make this a law. Once it becomes a law, I’ll tell you how much it will cost.”

Harrison – “That’s stupid.”

Brinson – “See. Not fair.”

Harrison – “Who knows what you’ve written in there. I could be agreeing to give away a kidney or something.”

Me – “So, do y’all want to make it a law?”

Brinson – “No. I don’t.”

Harrison – “Who would?!”

In the end, the kids decided it wasn’t a good idea. I put the paper, where I’d written it, on the table and said “So… That’s a no then?”

Harrison said “Hang on…” He left the room and came back a second later with the “Like” and “Dislike” stamps. I think the stamps speak volumes…


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The fact that this is the basic crux of the Obamacare ‘bill’ and a 10-year-old and 13-year-old can understand it won’t work – while others insist it’s awesome – is incredible. It’s not that my kids are the savants. I love ‘em, they’re smart, but it doesn’t take a lot of brains to ‘get’ that this just won’t work.

How anyone can is beyond me…


6 Comments
Superpsychomom link
10/3/2013 10:21:57 pm

We had a similar conversation with our kids -- 5, 7, 9, and 11. Not one of them failed to see the flaws. I think the main problem, the one that the 5 year old had the most trouble with, is getting past the word "free" in that first article. He kept asking "But it's free. Free means that we do not have to pay for it." So the country is finally having their eyes opened now that the exchanges are open, and they're beginning to wonder where the "free" or "low-cost" options went, and I expect that the number of those opposed to this will grow.
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Bethany
10/4/2013 02:07:43 am

Way to teach your kids to think for themselves. I just can't believe that adults are actually considering this. Maybe we should send kids to the white house before they get 'smart' in college. We just might be better off.

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Tesa
10/4/2013 09:56:00 am

Not to mention since more people will have access to "free" medical treatment. More people will go to the Dr. for "miner issues" I have a cold or splinter, who knows the Dr's offices and Hospitals will be swamped critical needs will not be met.

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Lucy Hare
10/9/2013 08:18:33 am

And if they do decide to be a part of it for the purposes of making themselves look good to the tax payers, they will eventually 'loophole' themselves out of it.

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John
10/10/2013 04:37:10 am

Interesting analog. To make it more complete, you need to explain to your kids that in the days before the "Entertainment Act" there were two ways to purchase entertainment:
1. You could buy a prepaid card which covered your entertainment needs. Many corporations helped their employees and families buy these cards. (Not sure why corporations are in the entertainment business, but whatever.)
2. You paid for entertainment out of your own bank account. But if you were really desperate for entertainment and didn't have any money, you could go to "Emergency Entertainment Centers" around the country where a single serving of fun cost $2500 or more. But don't worry, that $2500 cost is paid by the entertainment industry and the costs are passed on to the other entertainment consumers through higher prices for all kinds of services.

With that additional information, your kids might think the Entertainment Act makes more sense. Or they might suggest we just get rid of that part about the people with money or an entertainment plan paying the cost of the people who go to the Emergency Entertainment Centers. They might say, "Why should we cover the cost of their movie? It's not like someone's going to die if they can't watch The Hobbit!"

At which point, it might be a good time to teach them that healthcare and entertainment have nothing to do with each other so your analogy is ridiculous.

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Chelsea
10/10/2013 07:50:04 am

At that point, John, you would have to explain that Obamacare was sold to the American people with lies that are now exposed. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCVNoyWoqxA

Its implementation is rife with corruption, cronyism, and incompetence.

You would have to explain that Obamacare does not mandate care. It mandates insurance and that care would not actually be available in a market that is flooded with millions more patients and is losing thousands of doctors who don't want IRS bureaucrats to run their practices and decide what life saving measures they will be allowed to administer. (Most people don’t trust the IRS very much these days.)



You would have to explain that Obamacare and real medical care have nothing to do with each other.

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